The F Club London - Swingers Club List

Title: Little Black Dress Party

Date:3/1/2011 11:49:52 AM

I went to the little black dress party as a single girl after a friend chickened out at the last minute (the wimp that he is).

I had a great time as I met a great couple. It's an interesting club which I would term as more of a sexy night club with a live DJ and interesting set up with lot of thought gone into it.

Although, the music was loud it got a lot of people on the dance floor which was a great way to get into a frisky mood. A lot of 'close up' dancing.

If you do go, try the grope room which is really exciting as a lot with a lot of hands groping all party of your anatomy. What more could a girl ask for ;-)

Thank you Mr D for looking after me and introducing me to other members.

x x x

Rating: 10

Title: Beautiful Party

Date:2/14/2011 3:53:44 PM

Went to the SDC Beautiful People Party on 12th February. This was our first venture in the swinging world.

It's a four hour drive for us, each way! We just got in around midnight and were lucky to just get in before they got sold out and closed the doors.

Just could not believe how many people were there and fortunately it was not cliquey, as we thought it might be and we would feel as outsiders.

The first thing that impressed us was the music. There was a live DJ and the 80's was a great theme (just our kind of thing). the dance floor was heaving with absolutely gorgeous ladies in the most erotic dresses. And there were quite a few single ladies too which we thought did not exist at swingers clubs!!

Got to meet the lovely Steph1 and she is even more gorgeous and sexy in person.

We could not believe the amount of sexy fun that was going on in the playrooms. It was totally mesmerizing for us as a first time couple.

Closing time was 3 in the morning which was a great shame as there were still so many people in there. Tell you one thing though, we are going to go back as much as we can. Sadly, distance is a problem but not surmountable one.

Love and kisses to all.

Carolina & Chris xx

Rating: 10

Title: New Years Eve

Date:1/5/2011 1:03:42 PM

I am a single girl and having been to 2 other swingers clubs, it was not a very pleasant experience both times as I was considered easy fodder for single and couples alike. Even more disturbing was the staff and owner who try to get into your knickers just because you are a single girl.

I decided to give it one more try and decided to take a friend with me (another single girl). We knew that it might be might get the usual unwanted attention but we can look after ourselves.

We chose Fclub mainly because some friends at Killing kittens has recommended it. We did not regret a minute of it. It was very refreshing to see the professionalism at the venue.

Eveyrone was very respectful and we were treated in a manner which befits a classy place. The party itself was every bit as promised. Richly decorated and very festive and we had a great night out. If only people realise that going to a swingers club does not have to end in sex. Sometime, you just want to sit back, enjoy the ambience and music and dance.

Don't know about others, but I would certainly recommend the club to single ladies as you will be looked after and treated with respect.

xx Beccy xx

Rating: 10

Title: Excellent

Date:11/16/2010 10:36:37 AM

We went on Thursday's Office Party and had an absolutely wonderful time.

Although, it wasn't very busy, there was a good turnout for a weekday and it was more about quality than quantity.

A mix night but the ratio of single guys to couples was just about even and everyone was very respectful.

The layout of the club is great and feels like a erotic night club rather than a spa. The rooms are well laid out and our favourite was the grope-room with glory holes.

Definitely worth a visit, whether you are a newbie or a seasoned swinger!

Rating: 10

Title: Magical Journey

Date:11/2/2010 11:37:19 AM

We went to the Peaches & Cream Party on 31st October.

We had arrived at midnight (late, as usual for us) and we were one of the last ones allowed in as it was full. The doors closed soon after another couple came behind us.

It was one of those night where everything went right for us. We met so many couples, we forget most of their names. Mostly quite young, probably in 20's and 30's.

Had a very night club vibe to it with music and a licensed bar - we hate carrying drinks with us, mainly because you normally take one or two and get bored with it. The Bar had all our favourite drinks so we were fine.

When we got there, there was play almost everywhere - the bar, lounge, playrooms and even near the reception area, there was lot of groping! We quickly found that the grope room was the best area.

What makes for a great party is the people who attend it and this was no exception. Many couples were seasoned swingers which made for a great atmosphere.

We had heard a few negative reports about the club but wanted to try it for ourselves and the only regret is that we did not visit much earlier. It is a new venue, very vibrant and colourful which makes for a very erotic setting.

Stayed till the end and never felt like leaving. Certainly will be back very soon.

Thank you Dhiren and crew for looking so well after us. Your hospitality will always be remembered. Could not have asked for more. See you soon hun :-)

Sonya

Rating: 10

Title: Très Bon

Date:9/20/2010 1:59:32 PM

We are young french couple who go to F Club.

We like very much and everyone very nice. We play with some young couples and one single girl. Everyone very friendly and look for us. In France, we cannot get many young couples like F Club.

We back very soon!

Merci beaucoup :-)

Sexy young french couple xxx

Rating: 10

Title: Masquerade Ball

Date:9/15/2010 10:59:09 AM

Our experience at The Masquerade Ball on 11th September.

This was our venture into the swingers world and we were absolutely mesmerised by what we saw at the club. The attention to detail was refreshing to see and the welcome from everyone put us at ease immediately.

Right from our first contact with the club to the last minute at the party went very efficiently. Our queries were answered immediately and there was someone always looking after us to make sure that we were OK (not that we needed looking after)!

The club was richly decorated and the ambience was so erotic that you could not help but be turned on and the place was clean as can be, right through the night.

The most impressive of all was how refined all the members were. Dressed exquisitely and very friendly which added to the sensual night.

If you are looking for an upmarket club, we would certainly recommend this particular one.

S&S

Rating: 10

Title: Fantastic New Place

Date:9/11/2010 8:01:48 AM

Just visited the new venue and what a breath of fresh air!

We think that there has been a lot of thought that has gone into the setup. Although it looks smaller than the previous location, it is a lot better as the atmosphere is very intimate.

We loved how the playrooms as they are interlinked so that you can look into all of them from wherever you are playing.

Needless to stay that everyone is extremely friendly and, in our opinion, novices will find the it very welcoming as there is none of the cliqueyness associated with many clubs like these.

Having said all that, we feel this place is perfect for hardcore swingers, however, newbies will learn quickly if they are serious about the swinging lifestyle.

We intend to visit a lot more, time permitting of course.

Nisha & Tim

Rating: 10

Title: Cherry Picking

Date:7/19/2010 12:11:28 PM

We went on Friday 17th, July hopping to get our virgin swinging cherries picked and boy did they get picked!

Loved every minute of it. And whoever says that single girls in a swinger club is a myth, should have seen the 3 essex girls that were there (they really were from essex and single). Now I am not bi but seeing them party, I wish that I was ;-)

Thanks DAVEANDSAM for showing us the 'ropes' and this pair of new converted addicts will certainly be back soon.
Sue & Mark

Rating: 8

Title: Peach of a party ;-)

Date:6/28/2010 1:00:20 PM

Our friends dragged us to the peaches and cream party on 25th June.

Although, it was not very busy, we were delighted by the sheer quality of the crowd. They were young, trendy and above all, very playful.

For us it was a transition from just voyeurs to full swap and loved every minute of it. The club became our 'alma mater' and we still cannot get over the euphoria!

We will try to get there for 35South on 3rd July.

S&C xxx

Rating: 9

Title: Worth a Go!

Date:6/25/2010 9:52:21 AM

After a year's sabbatical from swinging, we have just resumed. We went to TheFclub on 12th June for the Masquerade Ball and here are our ratings:

1) Location: 8/10 - Difficult to find but no nosey off-the-street crowd just walking in.
2) Parking: 10/10 - Ample parking within the gated compound.
3) Security: 10/10 - Staff at the entrance and Security Gates all around.
4) Ambience: 8/10 - colourfully and richly decorated.
5) Amenities: 5/10 - really could do with an upgrage but we believe that they are moving to a new location
6) Music: 5/10 - too loud for our taste but quieter near the play areas.
7) Staff: 10/10 - Great service all round.
8) Bar: 8/10 - well stocked with and sexy bar staff - a bit small when it gets busy.
9) Members: 10/10 - Excellent cosmopolitan crowd with fantastic outfits.
10) Entertainment: 8/10 - Put up erotic dances setting tone for sexy fun.
11) Value for Money: 8/10 - Not cheap but great for a night out.

Our overall rating would be 8/10 as this was not a normal swingers party but more of an erotic experience, therefore, it was not all about sex but a game of seduction with an opportunity to get really personal and intimate with other members.

Go with an open mind and see what you think.

Rating: 8

Title: Little Black Dress Party - Oh my my my

Date:5/24/2010 12:51:56 PM

We decided to venture to this party on 22nd May because the thought of wearing my skimpiest black dress sounded very titillating.

This is the third time that we have ventured to a swingers club as most of our meets are private house parties. Quite frankly, we went in with no expectations as we have been disappointed with other club that we have been to.

We were almost the first couple there at around 10.15pm but others were trickling in all the time. By 11.30 there was a good crowd in, although not very busy but it was just right.

We met some fantastic people there and all our initial apprehensions had evaporated almost immediately. What struck us was how young the members were.

We formed a small group of 10 who were all under 20s and loved how a lot of the ladies had their little black dresses on. It really made for an erotic experience. We were all chatting up like old friends and by midnight most of us were in the play areas.

The two areas we absolutely loved was the grope room and the cage with us 3 ladies in there and providing a spectacle to the gathered audience.

Wish we hadn't been 'kicked' out at 3am. Could have gone on till lunch time Sunday ;-)

And then there was the after-party at the hotel we were staying in in Wandsworth. We realised that there were a few of us staying there.

All in all, a very memorable visit and thanks to everyone for such an eventful night.

Well worth a visit in our opinion, especially, if you are looking for a younger, trendier crowd!

Nicola & T

Rating: 10

Title: Our review

Date:5/10/2010 12:20:30 PM

Gone are the days when swinging would entail putting car/house keys in an ashtray and drawing lots.

We are now in an era of orgarnized parties and swingers clubs. In our view, there are 3 types of clubs:
1) Seedy joints resembling brothels.
2) Fly-by-night clubs which open up, take money from members and run, closing in a few months.
3) Professionally and purspose built clubs run by experienced owners and staff.

After lookings at views and reviews about clubs in London, we decided to try out the f club and the following is our view:

Negatives:
1) In an industrial estate so a bit difficult to find.
2) A bit tardy needing an upgrade.
3) Music too loud making conversation a bit difficult.
4) Not cheap.

Positives:
1) Well managed and run. Staff and owners took time to talk to us and we felt very welcomed.
2) Great turnout when we went.
3) Not cliquey and very welcoming.
4) A lot of thought gone into orgarnizing the party that we went to.
5) Great website and very fast response to our emails.
6) Well stocked bar - not cheap but not expensive either (glamourous staff).
7) Very strict on Couples & Single Ladies Parties (Single guys not allowed in under any circumstances).
8) Staff resonded very quickly and efficiently to our concerns. Not complacent which is refreshing to see.
9) Very impressed at how our privacy & security is taken seriously (only members with IDs are allowed in).
10) This club will not appeal to the lowest common denominator.
11) Moving to new premises and we were given an overview which sounded very impressive.

Overall, we will give the club high ratings as it ticks the right boxes for us and they are going about it the right way so the future looks bright for the club!

Katie & Steve

Rating: 9

Title: Fetish cum Swinging

Date:4/27/2010 2:29:47 PM

If you enjoy fetishism with swingingism than Thefclub is recommended.

I went as a single gal on Saturday and was awestruck at the shenanigans going on in the dungeon and cinema room.

The best bit was being able to trample on a young guy. Initially, I just stood there watching until the other ladies invited me to join in. It was just too wonderful to describe in mere words.

I certainly will be returning and this time will be a little bit bolder!

Rating: 9

Title: Yes! Yes! Yes!

Date:4/16/2010 4:56:06 AM

Let me just say that as hardcore and discerning swingers, we only visit club on word of mouth recommendations.

We decided to visit the f club as our friends asked us out. Initially, we were disappointed at the condition of the club which need some updating, however, we were told that they are moving to a purpose built venue next door, hence the condition of the present place.

We felt very welcome from the outset and registration was a mere formality that we had to go through. It was impressive how conscious the management is about our security and privacy.

Although, quiet to start off with, it filled up nicely by 11pm and had some fantastic music on which set the mood for some erotic fun. The layout of the Bar is great as there is enough room to either sit quietly or mingle with other members.

There was a lot of orgies and mini orgies in many of the rooms not least the 'dungeon' which grabbed our attention.

Not a cliquey place and other members made the effort to welcome newer one.

We played with various couples and single ladies till about 3am until they had to close (as the manager had a church service, next morning or so he said - hilarious the way he put it).

Oh and one more thing, the guy at reception has a pack of cards with which he went around stating various tasks to be performed. This was a great move as, not only lightened the mood and got the fun started, but it was the most erotic experience for me personally. Well done you for letting your imagination run wild with that one. It was really impressive, therefore, please keep it up. If you are interested in playing ask Dhren (guy at reception)for that.

All in all, really a fun packed evening and a pleasure (in more ways than one) to have visited the club.

In the famous words by Arnie, WE WILL BE BACK!

Marietta & Jens

Rating: 9

Title: Worth it

Date:4/12/2010 12:26:09 PM

We went for the Masquerade Ball on 10th April and what impressed us was:

a) Quality: The quality of the people exuded pure class.
b) Attire: Everyone was dressed for the occasion. Men were in Diner Jackets or Tux and Ladies were in glamour. All this added to the atmosphere of the whole Ball. In fact we saw a couple turned away as they were not dressed appropriately.
c) Friendliness: Everyone was extremely friendly and it wasn't cliquey at all. The Staff were great too.
Decor: We loved how well the place looked with all the added props.

All in all, we had a great time and would highlyrecommend the club.

Thank you Mr D for making us feel at 'home.'

Rating: 10

Title: The 35South Party - Our kind of Party ;-)

Date:3/7/2010 2:55:36 PM

May we just say that this party lived upto our expectations on 6th March.

We are not really spring chickens as far as Swinging is concerned, having been to a few in Europe and back home in US.

It is refreshing to see how our generation of young swingers have taken to the scene. There were a lot of members in every corner of the club and there was a hot orgy in the Dungeon where about 6-8 couples were locked in but only the girls were taking part.

We only wish that we were not asked to leave at 4am lol.

Thank you to everyone connected to the Party and the members who were very welcoming!

We will be coming back in June, to the new venue that we were told about and hope to meet some of the young couples again.

Kisses x x x x x

Rating: 9

Title: Highly Recommended

Date:12/17/2009 1:27:57 PM

It's Kath and Andrew here.

We went to the club on Saturday, 12th October for the masquerade ball and had a great time mainly because we like to dress up and having masks on was a big bonus.

I think that we will be back for the January Ball. Hope to see you there.

xxx

Rating: 9

Title: Par Excellence!

Date:11/17/2009 3:47:57 AM

We had the pleasure of visiting The F Club on Saturday, 14th November for the Black & White Erotic Masquerade Ball.

Suffice to say that we had an absolutely fantastic time. We arrived at around 11pm and the place was jam packed with gorgeous couples, dressed to the occassion and all looking very sexy.

We took our girlfriend to a swingers club for the first and she could not believe what she has been missing. She was absolutely gobsmacked and she must have played with every other couple there.

We found some great playmates all night long and did not leave till 4am.

We cannot recommed this place highly enough and will certainly be back, especially, if they can hold these kind of parties regularly.

Well done to all those concerned! We will give this one very high ratings.

Chritine, Sally and John

Rating: 9

Title: We Liked It!

Date:10/27/2009 9:30:56 AM

Just to concur regarding the previous post regarding the erotic masquerade party. We attended the same one and it was fabulous.

We will definately recommend it and we hope to be there at November's Party.

Thank you to all the staff and members who made us feel very welcome.

Rating: 8

Title: The Erotic Masquerade Ball

Date:10/12/2009 5:31:20 AM

Our visit: 10th October 09

Talk about walking into a Hollywood Studio Set, well this was exactly what we felt like.

It was brilliantly decorated with the guys doing a splendid job and what an Erotic Cabaret show. It was like no expenses was spared to put up this party.

From start to end it was non-stop action, and we had the time of our lives and met load of new couples and made friends. If you ever want to witness a mass orgy, than this was the one.

We would generally not rate any club 10/10 but on this occasion it is well deserved. Thank you everyone, it was a job very well done.

Joanne and Mark

Rating: 10

Title: First time - Loved it :-)

Date:8/14/2009 6:11:04 AM

As a Single Guy, I was apprehensive about visiting any Swingers Club as I had no idea about the welcome I would get.

I was pleasantly surprised at, how everyone made me feel at 'home' and how very friendly they all were. It was easy to talk to regular members and got great tips on the etiquette of a Swingers Club.

For a weekday, I thought it was quite busy with about 15 guys, 5 couples and at least 1 single girl.

It was a real treat for me. Lot of action after about 11pm and the ladies were gorgeous. A dream come true for a young man like me.

Thank You everyone!

Rating: 7

Title: Marvellous!!

Date:8/5/2009 3:43:51 AM

Our First visit on 01.08.09

Having visited Swinger Clubs around the length and breath of Europe, we have learnt to take club reviews with a pinch of salt and thefclub was no exception.

We went to the 35South Party for couples and ladies under 35's. Suffice to say, we had a fantastic time (which is probably an understatement).

The club was brimming to capacity with heavenly gorgeous bodies and action was non-stop in every nook and cranny! It was like walking into a mass orgy.

The host and the staff were faultless right through the evening and met a lot of SDC Members without the place being cliquey. Our major criticism was the lack of shower which would have been welcome after sticky bodies from such physical exertions but this was made up by sex-in-the-shower back at the hotel ;-)

All in all, a very highly recommended club akin to Fun4two in Holland.

We will be back soon and hope to meet more SDC members there.

Annie

Rating: 8

Title: Swinging & Fetish Fusion

Date:7/26/2009 9:01:47 AM

Sorry this is a long narrative.

I must admit that we were never the ones for the Fetish Scene but at the insistence of Friends, we decided to try it our. In fact we don't even have any attire

to go to a Fetish Party, therefore, had to borrow something from them. They wanted to go to the F Club as they are already members but were very coy about what to expect and just kept on saying that we have to actually experience the scene to appreciate what it's all about.

Our minds were put at rest almost immediately at the welcome we got. Slightly disappointed that there were no changing rooms but after all the formalities, we saw other members changing either in the loos or near the lockers and we did the same and hardly noticed the difference.

We were led straight to the dungeon which did look a bit daunting at first sight with all the paraphernalia and saw others using it to its fullness. As we were told that we did not have to do anything that we didn't want to, we just stood there looking. But after a few minutes, we could not take our eyes away at some of the incredible scene unfolding before our eyes. We were looking at some of the most gorgeously looking people. Just imagine everyone in PVC, Leather, uniforms, etc.

As a dare, we decided to tie up my hubby on one of the 'Frames' with a blindfold and leave him there for a few minutes whilst we wandered to the Bar. When we went back, I was in for a pleasant shock seeing my hubby very turned on (never ever seen him in this euphoric state). There was an absolutely ravishing vixen lightly smacking him and stroking his cock at the same time. As I closed on him, he was moaning and was hard as a rock. She gently moved back and encouraged me to take over which I duly did, having been turned on myself. At this stage he had no idea and I carried on from where the Goddess had left off and my hubby was non the wiser but enjoying every moment. I just could not resit playing with his full mast cock and as soon as I took him in his mouth, he came gushing as I have never had him before. It is only when I took his blindfold off that he realised it was me and the expression on his face was a sight to behold. In fact I was so turned on myself, that we ran into one of the playrooms and had one of the best orgasms of my young life in a threesome.

Since leaving the club, we have not stopped talking about it. The great thing about our visit to the club is that there is a fusion between Fetish and Swinging.

The Fetish Party, we are told, is once a month. We cannot wait to get back in August and we are so going shopping to Camden Market for all the Fetish regalia that we can lay our hands on.

We would highly recommend Swingers to try out the Fetish scene at least once. It is not all about pain (as we initially thought) but also about dressing up in Fetish attire. I just loved the feel of PVC on my skin. Just writing this still gives me the goosebumps.

The F Club is highly recommended as the staff are fantastic, place was clean and above all other members were very welcoming and accommodating. Hope to meet other SDCers at the there.

Marie & C

Rating: 9

Title: Awesome !!!

Date:7/20/2009 12:54:46 PM

I went to the F Club this weekend Friday AND saturday, as i simply couldnt stay away. It was wonderful and the whole place was done up really nicely. The facilities are fab as are the wonderful volunteer staff. They couldnt be more helpful to a single female. I will be going alot more in the future and look forward to the next party !

Miss Weasel, Sussex

Rating: 10

Title: Loved It!

Date:7/19/2009 8:08:43 AM

Hi

This was our first venture into the Swinging Lifestyle. With so many clubs to choose from, we decided on this one due to the proximity and recommendation.

Kind of difficult to find but we think that is good because it is away from the residents and you do not have to worry about prying eyes.

There is ample secured parking and security is good. Got a great welcome, a guided tour and complimentary champagne on arrival which is a big help for the nervous newbies like us.

It was elegantly decorated and we loved the music and the ambience but above it, the staff were always around to guide us. It was very pleasing to see that almost everyone was very elegantly dressed.

We were a bit apprehensive as it was for Couples and Single Gents but our fears were allayed immediately when the staff told us that if we did have any problems with anyone, they would stamp down on it immediately. In the event, everyone was very respectful and extremely friendly.

We reckon that there must be over 80 people of all walks of life. We were probably the last ones to leave and thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. We took to the swinging scene like the proverbial 'Ducks to Water' and hopefully next time we will get involved with others a bit more. This one was just to dip our toes into the scene.

We would highly recommend the club especially if you are new to the scene.

Ann & Phil

Rating: 8

Title: What a Treat

Date:6/24/2009 11:32:37 AM

We went on Saturday, 20th June and had a wonderful time on what was our first swingers party.

Nervous that we were, we felt very welcome and the host at reception was very kind to reassure us and explain the whole lifestyle. From thereon, we were like ducks to water. The complimentary glass of Champagne was calmed our nerves.

It is like an industrial warehouse turned superbly into a Swingers Club with a Bar, Dance Floor, Play Rooms and a fantastic Dungeon.

It was a mix night for couples and singles but the balance was just fine. The regulars made us feel welcome and it was not cliquey at all (which was our worst fear).

The Ice Breaker was a game where I got to French a Voluptuous Vixen. I wish I also had a chance to do other erotic things (oh well, something for next time).

At 4am, we were well 'spent' but sadly it was closing time. For both of us, this was an experience of a lifetime and we think that Swinging is a lifestyle that we can get use to, or even, addicted to.

We will be back!!

Rating: 10

Title: Brilliant for Younger Couples

Date:6/2/2009 12:06:09 PM

I recently went to the Couples Only Party for the Younger Couples and Single Ladies and had a absolutely Brilliant Time.

Met a lot of sexy couples and as I am bi, we had a little orgy with 4 girls attracting quite an audience.

It was clean with great atmosphere and the staff were very professional and friendly (a word of advice, they do not play no matter how hard you try - shame really).

Give it a go! You might find it addictive.

Rating: 10

Title: Feb '09

Date:5/25/2009 11:31:23 AM

we had a good time at this venue with some very sexy couples, but were a little disappointed on arrival by the interior. It's a converted office space on an industrial estate. Perhaps we were spoilt at Fun4two in Holland.

Rating: 4

Title: Members review from james and anna - London

Date:5/15/2009 1:13:28 PM

We wanted to put down a few words for the benefit of anyone considering going along to FClub in Wandsworth.

We have been members ever since day one and its the best run club you will want to attend. The hosts are wonderful and will make sure you are looked after and their discrete venue ensures privacy.
The venue inside has plenty of space and has a dance floor, bar area, DJ booth and several rooms to explore. Lots of space means that dressing up the venue in various themes is possible for the various events that take place.

As well as a great venue with wonderful staff the people that frequent FClub are amongst the nicest and hottest you will meet and cover a wide range of personalities and age groups that means you will never feel out of place.

FClub allows your imagination to run wild and to express yourself like you never did before and we would suggest you might like to pop along and not hold yourself back

Hope to see you there

james and anna - London

Rating: 10

Title: Saturday 11th April - Fantastic Night

Date:4/13/2009 12:13:53 PM

We went to The F Club for the first time after hearing so many good things about it.

The first thing to say is that the location is very discreet with no peering eyes of neighbours to worry about and there is a lot of secured parking available.

Secondly, the staff were absolutely fantastic, just gorgeous and lovely where nothing was too much for them.

Thirdly, the have place had a real good feel about it and was very clean upto the end.

And finally, the crowd on the night was just great. Everyone was well dressed and the whole party was just sheer class. Mainly couples but few single Gents who were very well behaved except for one. We complained and never saw him again! It was a very cosmopolitan crowd with quite a few overseas members.

We would certainly recommend swingers to have a try it out.

Dave & Davinia

Rating: 10